Apollo Balthar
Minmatar
The Sausage Smuggling Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.30 10:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Moghydin
Strange, BoB are talking about an easy mode. I remember there was a whole thread that was called "BoB = I win button". I don't remember what exactly was written there, but, moving out with a fleet with average sp per member at 30 mill, with fully equipped T2 gear, T2 cruisers and T2 battlecruisers (and actually getting all that at build cost) can hardly be called "a hard mode". Did I mention FC's with 3 years of PvP experience?
Not that I am a BoB fan but I would like to point out that an alliance your size could attract pilots of that quality if you would actually support them, buy some BPO's (tech2) to supply them etc.
In my experience (been in FA and Tribal Souls, sigh....) any PvP pilot that asks for support (equipment and ships) either doesnt get it or has to beg everytime he loses something.
A succesfull alliance should have a basic agreement and a basic supplyline for these extremely trivial things (admittedly Tribal Souls had a system for BS losses, though supportships other then Blackbirds where extremely hard to come by, and ammo supplies mostly revolved around the local NPC's and not around PvP. Go figure, when I was just downthere I spend days to get Scramblers and webbers, imho some of the most basic modules for non fleet PvP).
Also, when you ask for support of the industrials in peacetime, most of what you get is:"You can tank the npc's for me while I mine to make some isk". That doesn't help with camping the regions entries or scouting/patrolling nearby regions to stay up to speed to what happens.
Another problem is that these (leeching) industrials that are unwilling to help (again, in my experience) have the nerve to whine when raiders enter the region because in the end everybody is hunting NPC's to cope with their losses and nobody camps/scouts to keep the region secure.
As an example: by the time Tribal Souls woke up and implemented a solid PvP support system (well, I didnt like it, but it wasn't bad at all) it was too late and ASCN steamrolled PS. with 3:1 odds if not worse.
TBH, after the drivel that came out of Cyvoks mouth then, I find it rather amusing they're getting their arses handed to them at this moment (Cyvok claimed they had to take over that region since TS were not able to defend it, yet now some ASCN leaders claim they never really defended Paragon Soul since they don't care about it, go figure their brilliant strategy)
To summurize, to be succesfull in 0.0 you must have PvP players and industrialists THAT ARE WILLING TO SUPPORT EACHOTHER... and respect eachothers abilities. Alliances should boot leeches ASAP and not keep them around to boost numbers as numbers say nothing, the ability to fight and support your fighters and to build and protect your builders at the same time says it all...
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